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Mahlkönig EK43 vs Turin DF83 V2
Two grinders cross-shopped at the same money. The DF83 V2 is numbered 0–90; the EK43 is numbered 0–16.
Which to buy
Choose the
EK43 if you…
- grind in volume — about 19–21 g a second from a 1,200 g hopper
- want 98 mm cast steel flat burrs, stepless from Turkish fine to coarse filter
- grind straight into retail bags — it has a bag clamp
Choose the
DF83 V2 if you…
- mostly single-dose but sometimes want a hopper — 50 g in the bellows or 225 g in the full one
- pull mostly espresso — Turin pitches its burrs at espresso, though they go to French press
- want a plasma generator in the chute to reduce static
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Turin no longer sells the DF83 V2. It now sells the redesigned DF83 Gen 2 and the variable-speed DF83V, and warns that the Gen 2 should not be confused with older DF83 V2 reviews. The settings on this page are for the V2.
Sources: Turin — DF83 v2 (archived Dec 2023) · Mahlkönig — EK43 · Mahlkönig USA — EK43
| EK43 | DF83 V2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Brand | Mahlkönig | Turin |
| Scale | Numbered dial | Numbered dial |
| Dial range | 0 – 16 | 0 – 90 |
| Burrs | Flat | Flat |
| Espresso → filter | 7 numbers | 32 numbers |
| Filter → coarse | 7 numbers | 44 numbers |
The same number means different things
Both grinders use a numbered dial, which makes it tempting to copy a number straight across. Setting 8 sits at grind index 27.5 on the EK43 but 0 on the DF83 V2 — far enough apart to change the cup.
Converting a setting
If a recipe quotes a setting for one of these grinders, read across for the equivalent on the other. Rows are spaced evenly by grind size, not by dial number — on a conical burr those are not the same thing.
| EK43 | DF83 V2 |
|---|---|
| 2 | 13 |
| 4.8 | 28 |
| 7.1 | 40.3 |
| 7.8 | 42 |
| 8.5 | 43.7 |
| 9.3 | 46.7 |
| 10.7 | 55.3 |
| 12.1 | 63.9 |
| 13.4 | 72.6 |
| 14.3 | 78.2 |
| 14.9 | 81.8 |
| 15.4 | 85.4 |
| 16 | 89 |
| DF83 V2 | EK43 |
|---|---|
| 13 | 2 |
| 28 | 4.8 |
| 40.3 | 7.1 |
| 42 | 7.8 |
| 43.7 | 8.5 |
| 46.7 | 9.3 |
| 55.3 | 10.7 |
| 63.9 | 12.1 |
| 72.6 | 13.4 |
| 78.2 | 14.3 |
| 81.8 | 14.9 |
| 85.4 | 15.4 |
| 89 | 16 |
Side by side, by brew method
Where each grinder lands for the same brew, worked out from its own dial curve.
| Method | EK43 | DF83 V2 |
|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 3.7 | 22 |
| Moka pot | 7 | 40 |
| AeroPress (short steep) | 7.8 | 42 |
| Pour over — V60 / cone | 8.8 | 44.6 |
| Siphon | 9.3 | 47.1 |
| Pour over — flat bottom | 9.8 | 50.2 |
| Steep and release — Clever / Switch | 10.3 | 53.3 |
| Drip / batch brew | 10.7 | 55.3 |
| Cupping | 11 | 57.4 |
| Chemex | 12 | 63.6 |
| French press | 14.1 | 76.9 |
| Cold brew | 15.2 | 83.8 |
The shape of each dial
Where the connectors bunch, that grinder’s dial is compressed and single steps count for more. Comparing the two shapes tells you which gives finer control, and where.
Mahlkönig EK43
Turin DF83 V2
Dialing in the EK43
The grinder that changed what filter coffee was supposed to taste like, and still the reference for high-clarity brewing. Its very large flat burrs produce an unusually narrow particle distribution, which is why coffee ground on an EK often tastes cleaner at the same nominal setting than it does elsewhere. Stepless, so treat the numbers as targets.
Dialing in the DF83 V2
The larger-burr sibling to the DF64, aimed at people who want more speed and a flatter particle distribution. Espresso is the design centre, though it covers filter more comfortably than the 64mm version.