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DF64 DF64 Gen 2 vs Turin DF83 V2
Two grinders cross-shopped at the same money. Both are numbered 0–90 — and the same number is not the same grind.
Which to buy
Choose the
DF64 Gen 2 if you…
- want to buy new — Turin no longer sells the DF83 V2
- want a lighter grinder — about 15 lb, with 64 mm flat burrs
- single-dose — the bellows hopper holds about 50 g
Choose the
DF83 V2 if you…
- want 83 mm flat burrs and a 550 W motor
- sometimes need a hopper — 225 g, as well as the 50 g bellows
- already own one, or are buying used
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Turin now sells the DF64 Gen 2 as the Gen 2.7; the "Gen 2" revision names vary by seller. Turin no longer sells the DF83 V2: it now sells the redesigned DF83 Gen 2 and the variable-speed DF83V, and warns not to confuse the Gen 2 with older V2 reviews. The settings on this page are for the V2.
Sources: Turin — DF64 Gen 2.7 · Turin — DF83 v2 (archived Dec 2023)
| DF64 Gen 2 | DF83 V2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Brand | DF64 | Turin |
| Scale | Numbered dial | Numbered dial |
| Dial range | 0 – 90 | 0 – 90 |
| Burrs | Flat | Flat |
| Espresso → filter | 55.2 numbers | 32 numbers |
| Filter → coarse | 22.3 numbers | 44 numbers |
The same number means different things
Both grinders use a numbered dial, which makes it tempting to copy a number straight across. Setting 45 sits at grind index 25.9 on the DF64 Gen 2 but 40 on the DF83 V2 — far enough apart to change the cup.
Converting a setting
If a recipe quotes a setting for one of these grinders, read across for the equivalent on the other. Rows are spaced evenly by grind size, not by dial number — on a conical burr those are not the same thing.
| DF64 Gen 2 | DF83 V2 |
|---|---|
| 12.4 | 13 |
| 20.8 | 28 |
| 30.3 | 40.3 |
| 43.6 | 42 |
| 56.9 | 43.7 |
| 67.9 | 46.7 |
| 69.4 | 55.3 |
| 70.9 | 63.9 |
| 72.4 | 72.6 |
| 75.8 | 78.2 |
| 80.5 | 81.8 |
| 85.2 | 85.4 |
| 89.9 | 89 |
| DF83 V2 | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|
| 13 | 12.4 |
| 28 | 20.8 |
| 40.3 | 30.3 |
| 42 | 43.6 |
| 43.7 | 56.9 |
| 46.7 | 67.9 |
| 55.3 | 69.4 |
| 63.9 | 70.9 |
| 72.6 | 72.4 |
| 78.2 | 75.8 |
| 81.8 | 80.5 |
| 85.4 | 85.2 |
| 89 | 89.9 |
Side by side, by brew method
Where each grinder lands for the same brew, worked out from its own dial curve.
| Method | DF64 Gen 2 | DF83 V2 |
|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 17.5 | 22 |
| Moka pot | 27.6 | 40 |
| AeroPress (short steep) | 35 | 42 |
| Pour over — V60 / cone | 64.4 | 44.6 |
| Siphon | 68 | 47.1 |
| Pour over — flat bottom | 68.5 | 50.2 |
| Steep and release — Clever / Switch | 69 | 53.3 |
| Drip / batch brew | 69.4 | 55.3 |
| Cupping | 69.8 | 57.4 |
| Chemex | 70.8 | 63.6 |
| French press | 74.1 | 76.9 |
| Cold brew | 83.1 | 83.8 |
The shape of each dial
Where the connectors bunch, that grinder’s dial is compressed and single steps count for more. Comparing the two shapes tells you which gives finer control, and where.
DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Turin DF83 V2
Dialing in the DF64 Gen 2
A 64mm flat-burr single-dose grinder that became popular precisely because it puts commercial burrs at a domestic price. Espresso is the design centre; the burr choice you fit matters more to grind character than the dial does.
Dialing in the DF83 V2
The larger-burr sibling to the DF64, aimed at people who want more speed and a flatter particle distribution. Espresso is the design centre, though it covers filter more comfortably than the 64mm version.