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Mahlkönig EK43 vs Turin DF64E V2
Two grinders cross-shopped at the same money. The DF64E V2 is numbered 0–60; the EK43 is numbered 0–16.
Which to buy
Choose the
EK43 if you…
- brew filter as well — stepless from Turkish fine to coarse filter
- grind in volume — about 19–21 g a second from a 1,200 g hopper
- grind straight into retail bags — it has a bag clamp
Choose the
DF64E V2 if you…
- pull espresso only — Turin recommends the DF64E for espresso only
- want programmable single and double timed doses
- mostly single-dose but sometimes want a hopper — it comes with a 225 g one and a bellows
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Turin no longer sells the DF64E: its product page now returns not found, and Turin's current range lists the DF64 Gen 2 (2.7) instead. The settings on this page are for the DF64E.
Sources: Turin — DF64E (archived May 2023) · Mahlkönig — EK43 · Mahlkönig USA — EK43
| EK43 | DF64E V2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Brand | Mahlkönig | Turin |
| Scale | Numbered dial | Numbered dial |
| Dial range | 0 – 16 | 0 – 60 |
| Burrs | Flat | Flat |
| Espresso → filter | 7 numbers | 23 numbers |
| Filter → coarse | 7 numbers | 22 numbers |
The same number means different things
Both grinders use a numbered dial, which makes it tempting to copy a number straight across. Setting 8 sits at grind index 27.5 on the EK43 but 5 on the DF64E V2 — far enough apart to change the cup.
Converting a setting
If a recipe quotes a setting for one of these grinders, read across for the equivalent on the other. Rows are spaced evenly by grind size, not by dial number — on a conical burr those are not the same thing.
| EK43 | DF64E V2 |
|---|---|
| 2 | 5 |
| 4.8 | 10 |
| 7.1 | 14.9 |
| 7.8 | 19.6 |
| 8.5 | 24.3 |
| 9.3 | 28.6 |
| 10.7 | 31.7 |
| 12.1 | 34.7 |
| 13.4 | 37.8 |
| 14.3 | 40.8 |
| 14.9 | 43.9 |
| 15.4 | 46.9 |
| 16 | 50 |
| DF64E V2 | EK43 |
|---|---|
| 5 | 2 |
| 10 | 4.8 |
| 14.9 | 7.1 |
| 19.6 | 7.8 |
| 24.3 | 8.5 |
| 28.6 | 9.3 |
| 31.7 | 10.7 |
| 34.7 | 12.1 |
| 37.8 | 13.4 |
| 40.8 | 14.3 |
| 43.9 | 14.9 |
| 46.9 | 15.4 |
| 50 | 16 |
Side by side, by brew method
Where each grinder lands for the same brew, worked out from its own dial curve.
| Method | EK43 | DF64E V2 |
|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 3.7 | 8 |
| Moka pot | 7 | 14 |
| AeroPress (short steep) | 7.8 | 19.6 |
| Pour over — V60 / cone | 8.8 | 26.9 |
| Siphon | 9.3 | 28.7 |
| Pour over — flat bottom | 9.8 | 29.8 |
| Steep and release — Clever / Switch | 10.3 | 30.9 |
| Drip / batch brew | 10.7 | 31.7 |
| Cupping | 11 | 32.4 |
| Chemex | 12 | 34.6 |
| French press | 14.1 | 39.7 |
| Cold brew | 15.2 | 45.6 |
The shape of each dial
Where the connectors bunch, that grinder’s dial is compressed and single steps count for more. Comparing the two shapes tells you which gives finer control, and where.
Mahlkönig EK43
Turin DF64E V2
Dialing in the EK43
The grinder that changed what filter coffee was supposed to taste like, and still the reference for high-clarity brewing. Its very large flat burrs produce an unusually narrow particle distribution, which is why coffee ground on an EK often tastes cleaner at the same nominal setting than it does elsewhere. Stepless, so treat the numbers as targets.
Dialing in the DF64E V2
The DF64 platform with a different motor and control scheme, sold under the Turin badge. Grind behaviour tracks the DF64 family closely; as with the rest of that platform, the burrs fitted define the character.