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DF64 DF64 Gen 2 vs Turin DF64E V2
Two grinders cross-shopped at the same money. The DF64 Gen 2 is numbered 0–90; the DF64E V2 is numbered 0–60.
Which to buy
Choose the
DF64 Gen 2 if you…
- brew filter as well as espresso — Turin says the 64 mm burrs cover both
- want to buy new — Turin now sells the Gen 2.7
- want an auto stop after 45 seconds
Choose the
DF64E V2 if you…
- want timed dosing — programmable single and double buttons
- want a 225 g hopper as well as a single-dose bellows
- already own one, or are buying used — Turin no longer sells it
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Turin now sells the DF64 Gen 2 as the Gen 2.7; the "Gen 2" revision names vary by seller. Turin no longer sells the DF64E; the settings on this page are for the DF64E.
Sources: Turin — DF64 Gen 2.7 · Turin — DF64E (archived May 2023)
| DF64 Gen 2 | DF64E V2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Brand | DF64 | Turin |
| Scale | Numbered dial | Numbered dial |
| Dial range | 0 – 90 | 0 – 60 |
| Burrs | Flat | Flat |
| Espresso → filter | 55.2 numbers | 23 numbers |
| Filter → coarse | 22.3 numbers | 22 numbers |
The same number means different things
Both grinders use a numbered dial, which makes it tempting to copy a number straight across. Setting 30 sits at grind index 16.5 on the DF64 Gen 2 but 45.5 on the DF64E V2 — far enough apart to change the cup.
Converting a setting
If a recipe quotes a setting for one of these grinders, read across for the equivalent on the other. Rows are spaced evenly by grind size, not by dial number — on a conical burr those are not the same thing.
| DF64 Gen 2 | DF64E V2 |
|---|---|
| 12.4 | 5 |
| 20.8 | 10 |
| 30.3 | 14.9 |
| 43.6 | 19.6 |
| 56.9 | 24.3 |
| 67.9 | 28.6 |
| 69.4 | 31.7 |
| 70.9 | 34.7 |
| 72.4 | 37.8 |
| 75.8 | 40.8 |
| 80.5 | 43.9 |
| 85.2 | 46.9 |
| 89.9 | 50 |
| DF64E V2 | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|
| 5 | 12.4 |
| 10 | 20.8 |
| 14.9 | 30.3 |
| 19.6 | 43.6 |
| 24.3 | 56.9 |
| 28.6 | 67.9 |
| 31.7 | 69.4 |
| 34.7 | 70.9 |
| 37.8 | 72.4 |
| 40.8 | 75.8 |
| 43.9 | 80.5 |
| 46.9 | 85.2 |
| 50 | 89.9 |
Side by side, by brew method
Where each grinder lands for the same brew, worked out from its own dial curve.
| Method | DF64 Gen 2 | DF64E V2 |
|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 17.5 | 8 |
| Moka pot | 27.6 | 14 |
| AeroPress (short steep) | 35 | 19.6 |
| Pour over — V60 / cone | 64.4 | 26.9 |
| Siphon | 68 | 28.7 |
| Pour over — flat bottom | 68.5 | 29.8 |
| Steep and release — Clever / Switch | 69 | 30.9 |
| Drip / batch brew | 69.4 | 31.7 |
| Cupping | 69.8 | 32.4 |
| Chemex | 70.8 | 34.6 |
| French press | 74.1 | 39.7 |
| Cold brew | 83.1 | 45.6 |
The shape of each dial
Where the connectors bunch, that grinder’s dial is compressed and single steps count for more. Comparing the two shapes tells you which gives finer control, and where.
DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Turin DF64E V2
Dialing in the DF64 Gen 2
A 64mm flat-burr single-dose grinder that became popular precisely because it puts commercial burrs at a domestic price. Espresso is the design centre; the burr choice you fit matters more to grind character than the dial does.
Dialing in the DF64E V2
The DF64 platform with a different motor and control scheme, sold under the Turin badge. Grind behaviour tracks the DF64 family closely; as with the rest of that platform, the burrs fitted define the character.