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Baratza Encore ESP vs DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Conical against flat — the Encore ESP's scale curves where the other runs straight. The Encore ESP is numbered 1–40; the DF64 Gen 2 is numbered 0–90.
Which to buy
Choose the
Encore ESP if you…
- want fixed steps — 40, with 1–20 a high-resolution espresso range
- grind from a hopper — it holds 300 g
- want a dosing cup for 54 mm portafilters, with a 58 mm adapter ring
Choose the
DF64 Gen 2 if you…
- want 64 mm flat burrs
- want stepless adjustment
- single-dose — the bellows hopper holds about 50 g
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Turin now sells the DF64 Gen 2 as the Gen 2.7; the "Gen 2" revision names vary by seller.
Sources: Baratza — Encore ESP · Baratza — Encore ESP manual · Turin — DF64 Gen 2.7
| Encore ESP | DF64 Gen 2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Brand | Baratza | DF64 |
| Scale | Numbered dial | Numbered dial |
| Dial range | 1 – 40 | 0 – 90 |
| Burrs | Conical | Flat |
| Espresso → filter | 12.7 numbers | 55.2 numbers |
| Filter → coarse | 10.1 numbers | 22.3 numbers |
The same number means different things
Both grinders use a numbered dial, which makes it tempting to copy a number straight across. Setting 21 sits at grind index 21.8 on the Encore ESP but 8.5 on the DF64 Gen 2 — far enough apart to change the cup.
Converting a setting
If a recipe quotes a setting for one of these grinders, read across for the equivalent on the other. Rows are spaced evenly by grind size, not by dial number — on a conical burr those are not the same thing.
| Encore ESP | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|
| 13 | 12.4 |
| 16 | 20.8 |
| 19 | 30.3 |
| 22 | 43.6 |
| 24 | 56.9 |
| 26 | 67.9 |
| 28 | 69.4 |
| 30 | 70.9 |
| 31 | 72.4 |
| 33 | 75.8 |
| 34 | 80.5 |
| 35 | 85.2 |
| 36 | 89.9 |
| DF64 Gen 2 | Encore ESP |
|---|---|
| 12.4 | 13 |
| 20.8 | 16 |
| 30.3 | 19 |
| 43.6 | 22 |
| 56.9 | 24 |
| 67.9 | 26 |
| 69.4 | 28 |
| 70.9 | 30 |
| 72.4 | 31 |
| 75.8 | 33 |
| 80.5 | 34 |
| 85.2 | 35 |
| 89.9 | 36 |
Side by side, by brew method
Where each grinder lands for the same brew, worked out from its own dial curve.
| Method | Encore ESP | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 15 | 17.5 |
| Moka pot | 19 | 27.6 |
| AeroPress (short steep) | 22 | 35 |
| Pour over — V60 / cone | 25 | 64.4 |
| Siphon | 26 | 68 |
| Pour over — flat bottom | 27 | 68.5 |
| Steep and release — Clever / Switch | 28 | 69 |
| Drip / batch brew | 28 | 69.4 |
| Cupping | 28 | 69.8 |
| Chemex | 30 | 70.8 |
| French press | 32 | 74.1 |
| Cold brew | 34 | 83.1 |
The shape of each dial
Where the connectors bunch, that grinder’s dial is compressed and single steps count for more. Comparing the two shapes tells you which gives finer control, and where.
Baratza Encore ESP
DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Dialing in the Encore ESP
The Encore ESP is the Encore with the espresso range Baratza left out of the original — a recalibrated burr set and a collar remapped so the fine end has usable resolution instead of bottoming out. If you are cross-referencing recipes written for a standard Encore, the numbers do not transfer directly; the same figure sits finer here.
Dialing in the DF64 Gen 2
A 64mm flat-burr single-dose grinder that became popular precisely because it puts commercial burrs at a domestic price. Espresso is the design centre; the burr choice you fit matters more to grind character than the dial does.