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Ceado E37S vs DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Two grinders cross-shopped at the same money. The DF64 Gen 2 is numbered 0–90; the E37S is numbered 0–50.
Which to buy
Choose the
E37S if you…
- pull espresso from a full hopper — it holds 1,600 g
- want 83 mm flat burrs and a 500 W motor
- want hands-free grinding, started with the portafilter
Choose the
DF64 Gen 2 if you…
- want to buy new — Ceado no longer lists the E37S
- single-dose — the bellows hopper holds about 50 g
- brew filter as well as espresso — Turin says the 64 mm burrs cover both
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Turin now sells the DF64 Gen 2 as the Gen 2.7; the "Gen 2" revision names vary by seller. Ceado no longer lists the E37S; its E37 line is now the E37Z models.
Sources: Turin — DF64 Gen 2.7 · Ceado — Coffee grinders · Ceado — E37S (archived)
| E37S | DF64 Gen 2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Brand | Ceado | DF64 |
| Scale | Numbered dial | Numbered dial |
| Dial range | 0 – 50 | 0 – 90 |
| Burrs | Flat | Flat |
| Espresso → filter | 20 numbers | 55.2 numbers |
| Filter → coarse | 20 numbers | 22.3 numbers |
The same number means different things
Both grinders use a numbered dial, which makes it tempting to copy a number straight across. Setting 25 sits at grind index 40 on the E37S but 12.4 on the DF64 Gen 2 — far enough apart to change the cup.
Converting a setting
If a recipe quotes a setting for one of these grinders, read across for the equivalent on the other. Rows are spaced evenly by grind size, not by dial number — on a conical burr those are not the same thing.
| E37S | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|
| 5 | 12.4 |
| 9.4 | 20.8 |
| 13.8 | 30.3 |
| 17.8 | 43.6 |
| 21.8 | 56.9 |
| 25.6 | 67.9 |
| 28.3 | 69.4 |
| 31.1 | 70.9 |
| 33.9 | 72.4 |
| 36.7 | 75.8 |
| 39.4 | 80.5 |
| 42.2 | 85.2 |
| 45 | 89.9 |
| DF64 Gen 2 | E37S |
|---|---|
| 12.4 | 5 |
| 20.8 | 9.4 |
| 30.3 | 13.8 |
| 43.6 | 17.8 |
| 56.9 | 21.8 |
| 67.9 | 25.6 |
| 69.4 | 28.3 |
| 70.9 | 31.1 |
| 72.4 | 33.9 |
| 75.8 | 36.7 |
| 80.5 | 39.4 |
| 85.2 | 42.2 |
| 89.9 | 45 |
Side by side, by brew method
Where each grinder lands for the same brew, worked out from its own dial curve.
| Method | E37S | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 7.7 | 17.5 |
| Moka pot | 13 | 27.6 |
| AeroPress (short steep) | 17.8 | 35 |
| Pour over — V60 / cone | 24 | 64.4 |
| Siphon | 25.7 | 68 |
| Pour over — flat bottom | 26.7 | 68.5 |
| Steep and release — Clever / Switch | 27.7 | 69 |
| Drip / batch brew | 28.3 | 69.4 |
| Cupping | 29 | 69.8 |
| Chemex | 31 | 70.8 |
| French press | 35.7 | 74.1 |
| Cold brew | 41 | 83.1 |
The shape of each dial
Where the connectors bunch, that grinder’s dial is compressed and single steps count for more. Comparing the two shapes tells you which gives finer control, and where.
Ceado E37S
DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Dialing in the E37S
A commercial single-dose grinder with large flat burrs and very low retention for its class. Built for cafés dialling espresso through the day, and stepless — repeatability comes from your own reference, not a click count.
Dialing in the DF64 Gen 2
A 64mm flat-burr single-dose grinder that became popular precisely because it puts commercial burrs at a domestic price. Espresso is the design centre; the burr choice you fit matters more to grind character than the dial does.