Turin DF64 Gen 2

What it does well

It is clean. In its first look, CoffeeGeek says the plasma generator "just works," and calls the Gen 2 "an exceptionally clean grinder." Turin says the system's effect changes with humidity, beans and cleanliness.

Retention is low. Home Grounds measured "a tiny 0.3 grams" on average when grinding 20 g with the bellows. Turin is careful here, saying low retention "does not mean every dose will have identical input and output weight."

CoffeeGeek says the custom 64 mm burrs are modeled on SSP High Uniformity burrs. It calls them "a big upgrade" over Gen 1's stock Italmill burrs. Home Grounds says burr swaps are easy, with SSP and Mazzer options.

The build is solid. CoffeeGeek describes an all-metal body, base and adjustment collar. It says the Gen 2 "pretty much fixes, improves, or eliminates every gripe" owners had with the original.

Where it falls short

It is loud. Home Grounds measured "over 90 dB," comparable to the Baratza Sette 270. CoffeeGeek says it "puts off a particularly high pitch sound when under load," though it is quiet running empty.

Filter is good, not its best. Home Grounds says grind uniformity "drops off a little at the coarser settings." It still says flat burrs generally give a cleaner, more consistent cup.

Capacity is small. Turin gives about 50 g with the bellows. CoffeeGeek mentions a larger hopper and deeper catcher only as possible future options, for batches up to 70 g. Turin also says it does not weigh or meter your dose.

Some questions remain open. CoffeeGeek wonders whether the plasma generator will need maintenance over time. Home Grounds warns you "may have trouble accessing good customer support."

Who should buy it, and who shouldn't

Buy it if you pull espresso daily, weigh each dose, and want flat burrs you can upgrade later. It also suits someone who switches between espresso and occasional pour-over.

Skip it if the grinder will run near sleeping people. Skip it too if you brew large batches of drip, or want a hopper that holds the week's beans.

If you are buying used, check which generation you are getting. The DF64 V2 is an older first-generation revision, not this model.

How it compares

The DF64 Gen 2 vs Niche Zero comparison covers the two single-dose grinders most often cross-shopped. It is flat burrs against conical.

The DF64 Gen 2 vs Varia VS3 pair sets it against a smaller, cheaper conical single doser. The Sette 270 vs DF64 Gen 2 pair is single-dose flat burrs against a hopper-fed, timed conical. Home Grounds says the DF64 is "up there with" the Sette for noise.

If you are weighing the predecessor, see DF64 Gen 2 vs DF64 V2.

Owning it

Turin's warranty is one year, subject to its store terms. Home Grounds says the simple design means "fewer components and less to go wrong," and that problems are easy to repair.

For routine care, see cleaning a burr grinder. If you upgrade the burrs, our guide to replacing grinder burrs covers the process, and burr alignment explains what to check after.

Stepless adjustment means you land near a setting rather than click to it. Use the settings chart on this page as a target, then tune by taste with our dial-in guide.