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Breville Barista Touch Impress (built-in) vs DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Conical against flat — the Barista Touch Impress (built-in)'s scale curves where the other runs straight. The Barista Touch Impress (built-in) is numbered 1–30; the DF64 Gen 2 is numbered 0–90.
Which to buy
Choose the
Barista Touch Impress (built-in) if you…
- want the grinder in the machine, with touchscreen guidance for grinding, dosing and tamping
- want assisted tamping and a dose the machine corrects for you
- pull espresso — Breville gives its grind settings to espresso
Choose the
DF64 Gen 2 if you…
- brew filter as well as espresso — Turin says the 64 mm burrs cover both
- want stepless adjustment
- single-dose — the bellows hopper holds about 50 g
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Turin now sells the DF64 Gen 2 as the Gen 2.7; the "Gen 2" revision names vary by seller.
Sources: Breville — Barista Touch Impress · Breville — Barista Touch Impress manual · Turin — DF64 Gen 2.7
| Barista Touch Impress (built-in) | DF64 Gen 2 | |
|---|---|---|
| Brand | Breville | DF64 |
| Scale | Numbered dial | Numbered dial |
| Dial range | 1 – 30 | 0 – 90 |
| Burrs | Conical | Flat |
| Espresso → filter | 12 numbers | 55.2 numbers |
| Filter → coarse | 10.2 numbers | 22.3 numbers |
The same number means different things
Both grinders use a numbered dial, which makes it tempting to copy a number straight across. Setting 16 sits at grind index 38.2 on the Barista Touch Impress (built-in) but 3.6 on the DF64 Gen 2 — far enough apart to change the cup.
Converting a setting
If a recipe quotes a setting for one of these grinders, read across for the equivalent on the other. Rows are spaced evenly by grind size, not by dial number — on a conical burr those are not the same thing.
| Barista Touch Impress (built-in) | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|
| 4 | 12.4 |
| 7 | 20.8 |
| 10 | 30.3 |
| 13 | 43.6 |
| 15 | 56.9 |
| 17 | 67.9 |
| 18 | 69.4 |
| 20 | 70.9 |
| 21 | 72.4 |
| 22 | 75.8 |
| 24 | 80.5 |
| 25 | 85.2 |
| 27 | 89.9 |
| DF64 Gen 2 | Barista Touch Impress (built-in) |
|---|---|
| 12.4 | 4 |
| 20.8 | 7 |
| 30.3 | 10 |
| 43.6 | 13 |
| 56.9 | 15 |
| 67.9 | 17 |
| 69.4 | 18 |
| 70.9 | 20 |
| 72.4 | 21 |
| 75.8 | 22 |
| 80.5 | 24 |
| 85.2 | 25 |
| 89.9 | 27 |
Side by side, by brew method
Where each grinder lands for the same brew, worked out from its own dial curve.
| Method | Barista Touch Impress (built-in) | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 6 | 17.5 |
| Moka pot | 10 | 27.6 |
| AeroPress (short steep) | 13 | 35 |
| Pour over — V60 / cone | 16 | 64.4 |
| Siphon | 17 | 68 |
| Pour over — flat bottom | 17 | 68.5 |
| Steep and release — Clever / Switch | 18 | 69 |
| Drip / batch brew | 18 | 69.4 |
| Cupping | 19 | 69.8 |
| Chemex | 20 | 70.8 |
| French press | 22 | 74.1 |
| Cold brew | 25 | 83.1 |
The shape of each dial
Where the connectors bunch, that grinder’s dial is compressed and single steps count for more. Comparing the two shapes tells you which gives finer control, and where.
Breville Barista Touch Impress (built-in)
DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Dialing in the Barista Touch Impress (built-in)
Built into an espresso machine and tuned for it, with the grind range weighted heavily toward the fine end. Perfectly capable within espresso; if you also brew filter you will find the coarse end short.
Dialing in the DF64 Gen 2
A 64mm flat-burr single-dose grinder that became popular precisely because it puts commercial burrs at a domestic price. Espresso is the design centre; the burr choice you fit matters more to grind character than the dial does.