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DF64 DF64 Gen 2 vs Timemore Sculptor 078
Two grinders cross-shopped at the same money. The Sculptor 078 is numbered 0–18; the DF64 Gen 2 is numbered 0–90.
Which to buy
Choose the
DF64 Gen 2 if you…
- pull espresso as well as filter — Turin says the burrs cover both
- want stepless adjustment
- single-dose, with bellows that come with the lid
Choose the
Sculptor 078 if you…
- brew pour over only — Timemore sells the 078 for it, and the 078S for espresso
- want a stepped dial with 36 settings
- want variable RPM from a 400 W brushless motor
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Turin now sells this as the DF64 Gen 2.7; the 'Gen 2' revision names vary by seller.
Sources: Timemore — Sculptor series · Turin — DF64 Gen 2.7
| DF64 Gen 2 | Sculptor 078 | |
|---|---|---|
| Brand | DF64 | Timemore |
| Scale | Numbered dial | Numbered dial |
| Dial range | 0 – 90 | 0 – 18 |
| Burrs | Flat | Flat |
| Espresso → filter | 55.2 numbers | 4 numbers |
| Filter → coarse | 22.3 numbers | 14 numbers |
The same number means different things
Both grinders use a numbered dial, which makes it tempting to copy a number straight across. Setting 9 sits at grind index 0 on the DF64 Gen 2 but 58.8 on the Sculptor 078 — far enough apart to change the cup.
Converting a setting
If a recipe quotes a setting for one of these grinders, read across for the equivalent on the other. Rows are spaced evenly by grind size, not by dial number — on a conical burr those are not the same thing.
| DF64 Gen 2 | Sculptor 078 |
|---|---|
| 12.4 | 0 |
| 20.8 | 1.5 |
| 30.3 | 2.5 |
| 43.6 | 3 |
| 56.9 | 3.5 |
| 67.9 | 4.5 |
| 69.4 | 6.5 |
| 70.9 | 9 |
| 72.4 | 11 |
| 75.8 | 13 |
| 80.5 | 14.5 |
| 85.2 | 16.5 |
| 89.9 | 18 |
| Sculptor 078 | DF64 Gen 2 |
|---|---|
| 0 | 12.4 |
| 1.5 | 20.8 |
| 2.5 | 30.3 |
| 3 | 43.6 |
| 3.5 | 56.9 |
| 4.5 | 67.9 |
| 6.5 | 69.4 |
| 9 | 70.9 |
| 11 | 72.4 |
| 13 | 75.8 |
| 14.5 | 80.5 |
| 16.5 | 85.2 |
| 18 | 89.9 |
Side by side, by brew method
Where each grinder lands for the same brew, worked out from its own dial curve.
| Method | DF64 Gen 2 | Sculptor 078 |
|---|---|---|
| Espresso | 17.5 | 1 |
| Moka pot | 27.6 | 2.5 |
| AeroPress (short steep) | 35 | 3 |
| Pour over — V60 / cone | 64.4 | 4 |
| Siphon | 68 | 4.5 |
| Pour over — flat bottom | 68.5 | 5.5 |
| Steep and release — Clever / Switch | 69 | 6 |
| Drip / batch brew | 69.4 | 6.5 |
| Cupping | 69.8 | 7 |
| Chemex | 70.8 | 9 |
| French press | 74.1 | 12.5 |
| Cold brew | 83.1 | 15.5 |
The shape of each dial
Where the connectors bunch, that grinder’s dial is compressed and single steps count for more. Comparing the two shapes tells you which gives finer control, and where.
DF64 DF64 Gen 2
Timemore Sculptor 078
Dialing in the DF64 Gen 2
A 64mm flat-burr single-dose grinder that became popular precisely because it puts commercial burrs at a domestic price. Espresso is the design centre; the burr choice you fit matters more to grind character than the dial does.
Dialing in the Sculptor 078
The larger-burr Sculptor, and the one with a caveat worth knowing before you buy. The plain 078 ships Timemore's Turbo — “ghost” — burrs: pyramid-cut, aimed at a unimodal grind with few fines and little heat, and built for pour over. Owners consistently report it will not go fine enough for espresso, and its adjustment is stepped where the 078S is stepless. If espresso matters, the 078S is the model with the flat burrs and the fine control; this one is a filter grinder that happens to be excellent at it. Seventeen numbers cover espresso through filter here, so the brew range has real resolution. Retention is genuinely low once the rotary knocker has cleared the chute.